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420 Vape Forums => Dabs & Concentrate Vapes => Topic started by: rastabuddhatao on May 08, 2018, 05:16:53 PM

Title: RBT Sliver
Post by: rastabuddhatao on May 08, 2018, 05:16:53 PM
Hey folks... just wanted to drop a place holder for the RBT Sliver... Troy, is this the right way to do it?
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: Troy on May 08, 2018, 10:14:46 PM
can i share sliver pics and talk openly about it here?
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: rastabuddhatao on May 09, 2018, 12:16:12 AM
Absolutely!  It's always full transparency with RBT.  This enables issues to be uncovered early by both you and your followers.  It also allows folks to make suggestions... RBT prides itself in being a customer driven company.  I have done my best in the past to listen to all ideas and then reduce it to what is practical, valuable and cost effective.  I have to confess, I am stupid happy to have your input and all the input of all your peeps here as it is like the a world class focus group for free.  My job is to make what the customers want and so many companies could do more grass roots marketing with real deal customers and fire there marketing VP ;)
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: rastabuddhatao on May 09, 2018, 12:36:32 AM
So since there is no double posting rule....

Hey all!  really excited to get first hand input from Troy.  This project started a few months ago when I fabricated the first RBT concentrate rig.  It was tested by Otherside and Troy.  Quick feedback was given... material ran down the element, the mica "wall" wasn't secure, and the taste wasn't on par with other metal element based units.  A second prototype was fabricated and tested by Otherside and then sent to Troy for evaluation.

What is Sliver?
A 510 concentrate unit utilizing a metal heater and a metal wick for added surface area and product wicking. The physical make-up will be based on the Splinter architecture of a wooden surround of a glass ground joint system.  Different, in that the wooden surround will be removable to access the product application surface.

What is out of scope?
Although more pure, ceramic or quartz will not be considered as the substrate.  This project will work to optimize the flavor of an all metal heater/wick system (stainless or Ti) to take advantage of the on-demand cloud making high thermal conductivity of metal.

The unit Troy now has has a two heater / three wick system.  The idea is that the wick material is sandwiched between the two heaters.  There is a V built into the heater to naturally accept a tool for product application.  This is where the magic happens and where the fine tuning and experimentation will be required.  the wood was chewed out by a beaver so the fit is loose and sloppy.  This joint may require that a metal sleeve be added to the wood to make for a robust joint for years of use. 

Thanks in advance to all who follow along and see what becomes of the Sliver.
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: Troy on May 09, 2018, 01:04:50 AM
...There is a V built into the heater to naturally accept a tool for product application.  This is where the magic happens...

Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: who_is_nate on May 29, 2018, 02:21:01 PM
This sounds really neat, I'm always curious about "new ways" to enjoy concentrate. Does this excel at any certain type of concentrate?

The Splinter caught be eye because it look likes (looks and technique) a portable E-Nano which I love.

Keep us posted!
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: King0mm on December 05, 2018, 05:37:58 PM
RBT Sliver atomizer https://imgur.com/gallery/aiIO2WM
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: rastabuddhatao on December 06, 2018, 08:19:25 AM
Thanks king for testing this rough prototype.  The heater consist of a heater top and bottom and a layer of wick in between them.  The heater mesh accepts dabs like butter on a hot waffle and once heated and liquefied it seeps into the wick.  It's ability to provide on-demand low temp dabs is where the flav is at but it can eat big globs of dab like a champ as well.  It is super easy to clean as you just over temperature it and burn-off the unwanted funk.  Unit will be housed in a slightly shorter Splinter housing that will be removable to facilitate loading dabs. the 510 base and heater can be soaked in IPA for cleaning.

Please give any thought and feedback to this development here....
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: King0mm on December 06, 2018, 09:54:02 AM
Enjoying it like a cartridge the most, load up a big dab set to 8watts and sip on it slowly increasing the wattage and usually ending at 16watts.
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: analytika on December 07, 2018, 05:05:20 PM
Pics please!
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: Khelek41girl on February 22, 2019, 03:50:12 PM
Hey all, just got my Sliver in the mail today. Having some technical difficulties at the moment. Keeps saying there is a short somewhere. Also, just a heads up, anyone who is testing these will need to make sure they are using a regulated device that can handle ohm levels as low as

The Gen 3s definitely work with the Sliver, but others might have issues. Be sure to check the specs on your mods before usage.

Edit: Got the technical difficulties worked out. If your Splinter encounters a short, loosen the screws slightly. Make sure they are still snug, but just not super tightened down. Ohm rating should be at around .5ohms
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: Khelek41girl on February 22, 2019, 04:58:09 PM
You can use the included bamboo sticks and dab tool to reshape your coil if you have to do any trimming or take the coil off the RDA base. It produces the perfect setup

Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: Khelek41girl on February 23, 2019, 11:07:54 AM
So I spent the last 3 hours working on the Sliver. The unit keeps shorting out and I think the coil screws are the culprit. If they are tightened down with anything more than a feathers touch, it comes back with a short. I've also raised the ohm level up a bit

Wattage wise, I have found that 15W is the max mine will go without hot spotting and starting to glow red. I personally won't be going over 15 Watts with this particular coil until we get things more dialed in. I'll be testing actual dab performance later on when I don't have a child running around


Edit: I also attempted to swap out the screws for ones with slightly smaller screwheads and that did not help with shorting, so it may not be the screws at fault, but the interaction with the mesh heater being pinched between the deck and the screwhead
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: ShitSnacksFC on March 04, 2019, 01:16:19 PM
So my Sliver seems to work fine with a cold .59ohm resistance, though a bit rough, I broke it at 55watts and finally gave it a go on this Cuboid Mini running Tubo firmware:

This was the first go of nice Seattle dabs, started at 8watts and only got taste, stepped up to 15 for more effects, but didn't get visible vapor until 18w where it did go for a few more hits. Used a bent cooler stem defect, which worked extremely well.

Later I loaded this nice Sour Chem live resin for a few rounds, starting at higher wattage now:

I tried 22w and still didn't seem to be getting the most out of it so stepped up to 25, 28, then 33 which yielded the thick hit I was expecting, yet still super smooth with the drydrotube!

I even tried as high as 38w at one point, but that seemed to push it perhaps. I think I may have 35w limit moving forward, I was expecting 8-22, but seems like mine needed it to be higher (and I am someone who favors flavors with low temp effects and smoothness)... Coil is still a little crooked, slightly touching the side when sleeve is on, and larger half glows sooner on bottom of curve above screw.

I had a 18-14 reducer in the Sliver here to connect to my drydro with 14-18 male to male adapter. It is nice how the joint length does not matter here!


Some sum up points: Sliver is super easy to load, not sure on best spot though I aimed for center in the groove and on top of the curves. Sliver offers great taste purity, even at upper wattage the flavor of the concentrate shown through. And Sliver can be quite smooth despite the power, but especially with RBT's coolers of course. Looking forward to more testing

I'll be more active on FC with this, but wanted to share here for more people to find RBT greatness!
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: Troy on March 07, 2019, 12:12:24 AM
Thanks for sharing the specifics as well as your thoughts on each temp!

My sliver looks to be several iterations out of date by this point
Title: Re: RBT Sliver
Post by: Khelek41girl on March 07, 2019, 04:01:24 PM
Hey all, just wanted to let everyone on the Sliver beta team know that I just heard from Ryan. He wanted me to give an update that the Sliver coil has been redesigned and apparently is pretty snazzy. So he said there's no need to do anymore official testing at this time, and providing feedback can be put on hold during the upcoming weeks. Everyone can obviously continue to tinker and play as you want with the current coils, butthere is no more need for official reporting at this time.He said the new coils will take around 3-4 weeks forproduction, but didn't give an official time before we receive them, so just keep your eyes and ears open forfurther updates.
Thanks everyone, and stay tuned! Good stuff is coming!